why did I fuck this smith up?

I use my front tire to aim my smith grind.

Once my front tire is slightly over the ledge, that is when i push slightly forward, scoop up the rear and kick to the side.

The kicking motion on the rear also moves the front of the wheel slightly away from the ledge. (physics and shit)

That's probably what happened. Not enough front peg on the ledge.

Looks like right when you were about to get into the smith, you leaned the bike too much to the right. You wanna stay centered over your bike instead.

When I was learning smiths, the best advice I was given was basically to think of the smith as a rail ride and inch your front end over slightly. You wanna hop onto the ledge as close to the edge of it as you can as if it's a skinny ledge or a rail ride, but move your front wheel over so you land on the peg instead of ledge riding it. As you get better at them and figure them out more, you should be able to figure out your own way of doing them better. That's how it was for me anyway.

Currently I don't really even think about what I do but I think what I do when I smith grind now is basically just go for a double peg but lean forward more to leverage my back end up.

Try either of these and see if they work.

Because you don't know how to smith

You hopped a bit too high and took your foot off. Try to keep the hop as high as whatever you're grinding, helps keep momentum going forward and less hammering the peg straight down and losing speed. Try to be smooth about it. A really slick ledge helps a bunch.

go faster, commit, go with it.

BMXism wrote:

You hopped a bit too high and took your foot off. Try to keep the hop as high as whatever you're grinding, helps keep momentum ...more

BMXism wrote:

You hopped a bit too high and took your foot off. Try to keep the hop as high as whatever you're grinding, helps keep momentum going forward and less hammering the peg straight down and losing speed. Try to be smooth about it. A really slick ledge helps a bunch.

go faster, commit, go with it.

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Yeah the ledge had no wax on it, I'll try the next day I ride

Just keep your feet on. Lean back, push with your arms.

For me, it's usually getting the front peg on first priority. As soon as I feel it's right, I immediately take my attention to the back and try to hop higher than whatever I'm grinding on. Front there, there's not too much steering involved, contrary to feeble grinds. I also notice that your foot moves down way too much on grinds and that's also a very bad habit. You'll be wearing through pedals like nobody's business and you'll become dependent on that balance, so just try to keep your feet steady and use your front wheel and body to control your balance.

And since I didn't go too much into the smith grind. I do what I mention above and then I literally shift my weight to the back of the bike. When hopping out, it can be hard for some people, but for me, I take my weight off a tiny bit and pull my front end back into place. Some people like to kick down their rear ends, which I also do a lot. Just find what's comfortable, as long as you land it safely.

When I do them (Rarely cause they kill my shoulder) I hop like I am gonna double peg it but land hard, and then kick the back over a bit, and lean back over the rear tire more so it slides better and doesn't stick.

i finally learned them correctly today
before now, i would go for front peg and swing my back over, and it wasnt consistent and looked ugly
the best way imo to learn them is to find a semi low ledge first of all
get comfortable hopping onto the ledge (ride parallel and then hop on close to the edge)
now hop on and make a point of landing back tire first
hop on, land back tire and let the front fall into the grind
the more you do it, the time between back tire and front peg landing gets smaller

it might not be the BEST way but its the easiest way to learn it for me

Well I was trying them out of a bank to ledge in my park and I was getting into them I just need to get out of them right, any tips on this

Looks like you didn't hop straight into it and your tire rubbed onto the ledge OR the ledge was simply not waxed but even then if you went a bit more straight and a bit more "confident" if that makes any sense you could have held it. Just keep on doing them and you'll get perfect at them, my smiths actually look a lot better than my feebles.

andyferly wrote:

Looks like you didn't hop straight into it and your tire rubbed onto the ledge OR the ledge was simply not waxed but even then ...more

andyferly wrote:

Looks like you didn't hop straight into it and your tire rubbed onto the ledge OR the ledge was simply not waxed but even then if you went a bit more straight and a bit more "confident" if that makes any sense you could have held it. Just keep on doing them and you'll get perfect at them, my smiths actually look a lot better than my feebles.

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Hey bro, still using the versus frame

Since you said it was unwaxed I'd say you hopped to high and the force was too hard when you landed and made too much friction so you couldn't slide. Also you leaned to your right which made you lose balanced and that also could have made your foot come off, but it looks like you took it off before you even landed. So long story short only hop as high as need be, stay straight, and commit to it.

Don't try smiths on an unwaxed ledge unless you're looking to end your life.
Put your ass over the seat/back tire.
I like to keep my arms close to straight.
Go faster.
Practice. It takes some time.