Anyone have this 180 problem?

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7/10/2015 10:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/10/2015 10:44 PM

I'm at the point where I can maybe get ten 180's down if I try them for an hour. Going pretty slow though.

The issue is half the time during the carve into the 180, the back lifts tire and I get tossed into a sharp g-turn.

I tried to fix this by shifting my weight back and pretending like I'm almost going for a manual 180. This works but it feels really awkward. Like it's a very forced 180. Similar to just going straight and 180ing too. It's almost like it's just another kind of trick.

I know your supposed to be able do them without even carving but then again you see people carve really hard into spins during 360s so your obviously suppose to learn how to carve into spins at some point.

The thing is the hard carve into the 180 actually does actually work some of the time and when it does it feels like the spin comes around very easily and it feels really good. Then the other half is just that weird g-turn thing that happens. It just feels very unpredictable and I never know what's going to happen.

I guess the question is how do you carve properly into spins?


10/5/2015 3:08 PM

It sounds like you are trying to 180 by hopping with both wheels at the same time. Try doing a true J hop into the 180, Pick up the front tire then hop


10/5/2015 3:33 PM

What ^^ said. Try pulling your front wheel up first, and see how that goes. Or post a video so we can see what you are doing to see what we can more accurately advise on.

This tutorial is pretty decent. Watch what he does to start the hop and initiate the spin. Try to imitate it. Foot position and spin direction don't matter on this trick, whatever is more comfortable.


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10/5/2015 4:38 PM

I've gotten much better at 180's since i posted this. I can get them down plus the rollback almost every time now.

I was for sure doing it the j hop way before. Fully vertical, bars touching thighs. I've actually can't even do it the 2 wheel at the same time way at all. It feels harder for some reason.

I think the main issue was simply putting to much weight on the front wheel when carving instead of staying more centered and weighted on the BB. That's what was making me g-turn. This was a hard thing to get used to since i naturally want to lean forward a lot before hopping. I've since put on higher bars and more spacers too and this helps a lot with keeping your weight back and your body more upright.

I can even put in a decent carve now too. The trick to this is to counter carve beforehand much more than you think and keep the actually takeoff carve very short and brief. So if you're 180ing to the right, for instance, carve to the left first to throw your momentum there. Then cut that momentum off quickly with a sharp carve to the right.

What I'm working on now is getting more height and distance.

I also have another issue now where its hard to do it all in a straight line. I tend to almost over rotate to like a 190 and then land and fakie far to the right, sometimes almost doing a full circle. I guess it's just a matter of underrotaing the 180 a bit.