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4/23/2015 7:23 PM

There are all these things going on for me right now. This college is whack anyways. But I need to choose a Major.

I originally wanted to start the Mechanical Engineering, which would have worked if my dad didn't guilt me into doing all these other things that I ended up liking a lot. Like Theater classes and Music classes. They would have been cancelled because there wouldn't have been enough people in them if not for me. So i took them. I really enjoy performing, another reason why BMX is good for me, it's art. I am a talented singer really too. I love the feeling of it, not even the audience, just the way giving a good performance feels that nervous quake you get when you make a good joke, really become a different character, or sing a note that sends chills down my spine. I like learning new things about Music and about Theater.

Basically, I'm stuck. I don't know even what I'm in college for to be honest. I go for free and I'm just here really, passing the time and trying to learn new stuff that I like doing. But now I'm told to pick a major really. I don't like that really, because it only sets me up even more. I like Theater, but I don't see it being worth anything anymore. It is a Liberal Arts college, so I should be able to take a few classes I like anyways. So we just had our Spring weeks where we perform a bunch. I had a play (that went crazy well, but we got small audiences, sadly) and everyone loved it and more importantly I feel like I did really well. Then we had our Spring Concert. Rock band, Choir, Poetry, etc. I was in Rock Band and Choir. We have this guy come that's a successful operatic singer and he trained us a bit and he told me to come see him and he tells me I should be a Voice/Performance Major.

He was the first person to tell me that, but people constantly tell me I'm a really good singer. I have improved a lot too. He also said that I should come check out the college he teaches at regularly.

So basically How did anyone here choose their majors? I'm stuck between Theater, Music, and Voice/Performance.

To really get what I'd need for Voice, I'd have to start some training outside of school, unless they fully hire the next guy. Or even go check out that school. I don't normally have to make these big choices so I'm hoping this Forum can actually help me a little. To Major in Music means having to put up with this ASSHOLE that runs it. He is a real bastard and takes pride in it. To Major in Theater means I'll be screwed like my Dad is.

Really All I want to do in life is work at a Bike Shop somewhere building wheels all day and selling and talking about Bikes with a side job acting in movies and plays and writing and also performing and writing music.

I really just love it all. Help.

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4/23/2015 8:10 PM

Are you going to the National Thespian conference in Lincoln this summer? It's that huge one of mostly highschool students. Anyway, our school is one of ten performing.

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4/23/2015 8:18 PM

notorious NIG wrote:

Are you going to the National Thespian conference in Lincoln this summer? It's that huge one of mostly highschool students. ...more

My Dad goes to that every other year. I'll ask him if it's this year that he is going.

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4/23/2015 9:29 PM

Don't get a theatre degree. My brother did that, he now has a job comparing prices of things online and entering them into a database. Great usage of a college education right? Idk if i even want to go to college. I only want to go if i know exactly what i want to do, i don't want to "go for the experience" and then end up with 50k of debt and no idea what i want for my life.

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4/23/2015 10:00 PM

blaaaaaaaaa wrote:

Don't get a theatre degree. My brother did that, he now has a job comparing prices of things online and entering them into a ...more

This. Just don't.

I was going for Mechanical Engineering as well. I realized it wasn't what I wanted to do and I fucking hated the school I was going to. I decided I'd like to go for Industrial Design even though it's similar to Mechanical Engineering and has shittier pay, I just couldn't see myself going through with engineering. But then I realized ID would essentially require me going to art school, and most people here know how I feel about that. Fucking stupidly expensive and you have to deal with all the tumblr fags and the rest of the moronic pseudohipster cunts there. So I decided I would just give up on college entirely for now at least.

I guess I focused too much on money and not on what I really wanted to do. I think I can be happy without college right now, definitely a lot more content than I was going to college. I have one more week left this semester and I'm probably going to fail all of my classes. I've really just accepted it at this point, I don't think I've had enough credit hours for it to really matter.

I think it's better to just wait on college rather than fucking yourself financially and ending up either with a bullshit degree or halfway through a bullshit degree.

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4/23/2015 10:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/23/2015 10:50 PM

Theatre and music degrees , don't see their being any serious financial payoff or job security in that , there's always work for mechanical engineers

you said your going for free ?
I'd try to make the most of it and go with whichever has the most job demand out of them

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4/24/2015 7:16 AM

blaaaaaaaaa wrote:

Don't get a theatre degree. My brother did that, he now has a job comparing prices of things online and entering them into a ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

This. Just don't.

I was going for Mechanical Engineering as well. I realized it wasn't what I wanted to do and I fucking ...more

Thing is, I'm good at the academic part of college. I just hate literally everyone that goes here XD Bunches of spoiled rich kids that are arrogant alcoholics and all i want to do is watch them all crash and burn in life. Literally just a bunch of low lifes go here. Rapists and morons basically. haha I hate all the Greek Life here. They're just excuses to get drunk, the baseball, basketball, and other sports teams are all full of arrogant retards who abuse women and treat people badly. The worst part is the girls go for it. I have never seen a bigger concentration of stupid girls and sluts. haha and that's not even the half of it. I literally am the only one who goes to class anymore. Nobody even bothers showing up. So due to the curve the professors HAVE to give, I always have an A, regardless of how much i have learned. Which I hate tbh. I came here to be challenged and learn about things I'm interested in.

I continuously consider leaving the school, but as long as it's free the only thing I have to lose is my time really. But since I live at home, all the money I make working I can save, once i have enough, i'm leaving and getting a job back down South. I don't like winter or the people up here. In the South, people are dumber, but atleast I won't deal with the cold ass weather and the shitty roads and stuff. And the riding scene is better in Texas, where I want to go.

The thing that gets at me the most is learning. I always feel like the more I know, the more unhappy it makes me. I don't shy away from knowledge, but there is part of me that realizes the more I have, the more i have to be sad about how bad the world has become.

Another thing is people texting CONSTANTLY. When I had a phone i never pulled it out in class, but people literally show up and ignore the professor and put headphones in and text. Why even come if you're gonna do that? And these are people who actually pay to go here...

Another big issue is rape. I know of like 7 girls who have told me they were raped here and who had done it. One guy did 4 of them too. I hate this school.

And as for the theater degree thing. It's the least likely choice of mine. No money in it. Movies and stuff aren't even worth it either. It's a dying industry due to YouTube.

I want to be able to just perform. I wanna learn to be a real musician. Writing and performing my own pieces. I could succeed in Pittsburgh with that alone and tour.

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4/24/2015 7:29 AM

eskimojay wrote:

Theatre and music degrees , don't see their being any serious financial payoff or job security in that , there's always work ...more

Life is about living within your means when it comes to money, that's an important lesson I was taught early on by watching my parents.

My dad always would buy really (ambitious?) nice cars that wouldn't run for very long because they were old sports cars. I watched car after car blow up and i realized you shouldn't be ambitious with money. Don't buy a Jaguar if you can only afford a Honda Accord.

I don't need a bunch of money to be happy. I'm willing to bet even the dudes with the nicest bikes on here make more than 35 grand a year after taxes. A good bike can cost up to 1500$ and usually that's not even necessary to spend that much. I can afford that now only making 10 grand a year doing part time work at a cafeteria, cutting grass, and working on farms, etc.

All I really need to be happy is my own apartment, a Keurig, a nice shower, my tools, and a laptop. Which i already have most of those. And food wouldn't be that much as all i eat is cereal and bananas and whatever my mom makes. I don't even have a bed, just this futon cover on the floor. I don't need a phone either. I'm content with all I have, i need nothing more, other than a car one day.

I know I won't want kids. I promised myself i wouldn't bring kids into this world, especially with the hereditary depression I have. No one else deserves to suffer. Only way I'm having a kid is if I can leave them with enough money to never have to worry about needing things.

I'm also an aire to a good amount of cash one day. I'll be 35 before I even had a chance of seeing it, but eventually there is something coming to me. My God parents have me in their will for a huge amount of money and a house In London.

I couldn't wish to be rich, that's just wrong to do. You'll live your whole life in bitterness and misery, like the rest of the 99% as the 1% thrives. I just wish to be content and happy.

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4/24/2015 9:43 AM

What's that old saying "Find a job you love and you'll never have to work a day in your life." That's true for most art majors, because people aren't hiring. You gotta find a happy medium, find something tolerable for you, that's in high demand and is a growing business. I'm in the IT field and it's not too shabby right now, there are tons of people hiring. If your schooling is free, I would say follow your heart, but have a pretty good backup just in-case. If you still can't figure out a major, try getting all your general education requirements done first (i.e Math, English, Gym, etc...). That should buy you some time to consider your options.

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4/24/2015 4:48 PM

Fuk skool get money.

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4/24/2015 5:17 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/24/2015 5:17 PM

johnnyluvbuckets wrote:

What's that old saying "Find a job you love and you'll never have to work a day in your life." That's true for most art ...more

"What's that old saying "Find a job you love and you'll never have to work a day in your life." That's true for most art majors, because people aren't hiring."

I think we will get along just fine m8. #fuckart

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4/24/2015 5:35 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/24/2015 6:10 PM

eskimojay wrote:

Theatre and music degrees , don't see their being any serious financial payoff or job security in that , there's always work ...more

MaximusBikes wrote:

Life is about living within your means when it comes to money, that's an important lesson I was taught early on by watching my ...more

I used to think that way

I'm a musician myself love playing punk music but I always knew the whole being a musician dream was a deadbeat dream, I still play and love it but today's music is a prime example of in the entertainment industry it's not about how good you are but who you know , post secondary education doesn't always work even if you are tallented

Then I had a meeting with a life insurance agent and that whole way of thinking went out the window
For a guy like me 24 years old I can expect 25 to 50 grand for a funeral, and if i live a full life my agent told me our generation will be paying at minimum with inflation and living a full life a funeral at that point in time will be around 100 thousand for a funeral

It's pretty damn expensive to die these days, having a good career under the belt deffinatly isn't a bad option in this day in age, I don't know what the housing markets like in the states but in Canada here for a mediocore decent house your going to need at least 350 000 in places that still require a daily hour or 2 commute to the next nearest city for a job , life gets expensive quick , I got
Lucky and got a career working for the government in a hospital/college and if I didn't score that job I garentee I'd be a rig worker making allot of money but id have no social life,no riding life , and
Probably a bad drug habit on top of it
While you have the options to choose where you want to go it's a prime time to get a good career

I have a few friends that are engineers and they are doing quite well for themselves
My best friend who used to ride just turned down a 4 year million dollar contract as a power engineer because he's making enough here and didn't want to move 3 hours north or fly back and forth all the time

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4/24/2015 6:45 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

Life is about living within your means when it comes to money, that's an important lesson I was taught early on by watching my ...more

Shit man that got dark real quick.

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4/26/2015 12:23 PM

I just officially got an offer for the college to come there and be a Voice Major.

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4/26/2015 11:28 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

Life is about living within your means when it comes to money, that's an important lesson I was taught early on by watching my ...more

I went to a university for computing and software systems, and buisness administration and information technology. I thought i needed to go to school to learn a career. That was a few years ago, in about four months I'm going to be enrolling into a metalsmiting school to learn how to become a jeweler.

Here's what I learned at the institute of technology i attended. I learned that you don't go to college to pick a career, learn about it, and do it. I learned to listen to my own interests and persue routes that genuinely had my attention. I learned to feed what I enjoyed and starve what I didn't. I learned computer programming just wasn't for me.

BECAUSE IT'S BORING! in my opinion.

I wish I would have learned this valuable lesson sooner then what I had. After you get a little bit older you start to question what you value more. Your money or your time. I lean more toward minimalist, you sound like one.

Here's a very brief personality test for you to take.
Choose the answer that best matches you.

1.) At your place of employment do you:
A.) get paid for your work B.) Get paid for your time

2.) what do you value more
A.) money B.) time

3.) do you think an hour of your life is more or less valuable then $12
A.) more B.) less

I don't like hourly and salaried careers. I would rather be happy working for less then a miserable fucking rich guy. (And obviously vice versa)

Do what you like and get what you want. Literally.

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4/27/2015 8:56 AM

Nwewinit wrote:

I went to a university for computing and software systems, and buisness administration and information technology. I thought i ...more

Yeah, I hate boring jobs. I rather cut grass than wash dishes all day for the same money, even thought washing dishes is easier physically, mentally the grass cutting is better, especially considering there are no taxes and i really end up with more money as long as multiple lawns need done.

1) A

2) B Time

3.) A more Because I am DAMN good at what I do, no matter what it is. I have the overwhelming desire to constantly do things to the best of my ability. Unless i didn't sleep, then all I wanna do is sleep and don't give a shit. haha

I rather live a minimalistic life, not wanting more, just being happy with what I have. A simple life is a good life. Complex living is hard. I rather live like Hank Hill than live like a douche bag that always tries to get further.

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4/27/2015 12:01 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

Life is about living within your means when it comes to money, that's an important lesson I was taught early on by watching my ...more

Nwewinit wrote:

I went to a university for computing and software systems, and buisness administration and information technology. I thought i ...more

MaximusBikes wrote:

Yeah, I hate boring jobs. I rather cut grass than wash dishes all day for the same money, even thought washing dishes is ...more

Yeah from the sound of those answers, you most definitly want to do something enjoyable, cretive, and not so 9-5"ish" as a means to support yourself.

This is a pretty vague and generic response, but I don't personally know you or your interests.

From the sound of it, I doubt you'd be okay with being paid to be miserable even if the money was good.

My older brother was a music major, he didn't really kniw what he was going to college for either. He was already in a successful band, but music interested him. Now he has a masters(? 6 years...) in music AND a career completely unrelated to his degree. He does server side programming for a company that deals with credit card transactions. His degree got him hired, his new job paid for his training, and paid him to go.

He went to school for what he wanted, got the degree, and was paid to go back to college for free, to do what someone else wanted him too.

The degree carries weight, it reflects a capacity to learn and apply a skill to solve a problem.

My EX is a mechanical engineer, she went to school to become an mechanical engineer. College, in her case, taught her skills to apply in her engineering job. Her engineering job taught her how to become an engineer. Would she have been able to perform her engineering job without that specific degree? Yes. Would she have been hired without that degree? Probably not, because it's a specialized field requiring wierd shit like thermodynamics, and dynamics.

She hasn't used a thing she learned IN college at her job.... Exepct her ability to learn and apply.

I personally would rather make $5.00 dollars an hour selling a $100 gold ring that took me 20 hours to make and enjoy it. Then get paid to spend 2/3 of my life awake at a job I hate, to pay for a house I'm never in, which is why I have the terrible job to begin with. a pretty extreeme example, but you got the jist of it long ago. Some people are driven by money, and their concept of success. Other think of success as something "different"

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4/27/2015 12:51 PM

Nwewinit wrote:

Yeah from the sound of those answers, you most definitly want to do something enjoyable, cretive, and not so 9-5"ish" as a ...more

Yeah, everybody has a different idea of what success is. Most would say having a lot of money and a big house is success. Not me, and a few others I know of.

Being happy is the goal EVERYONE should have. You can be a bum with no house and a cardboard box and be happy. That's another reason Buddhism is such an interesting religion to me. Other religions teach you only one way to be happy, by devoting yourself to the beliefs of that God. Buddhism teaches your own way to enlightenment. How to pave your own path.

"anyone can pave a path, it takes balls to walk it." That's something someone told me a long time ago. So basically it's another way of saying follow your dreams and stick to your goals. And it always stuck with me. I have always been so head strong too, always a nonconformist. Ever since I was little my dad would tell me to be "A lone wolf and to not follow the pack." And that's easily the biggest thing i could thank him for. Sure, it hurts way more and is way harder to just not do what others are doing, and often leaves you lonely. I still rather be a lonely person, than a clone of a bunch of morons.

Sure, some things are important to do that others do. Like not killing everyone you don't like. But the general population is a bunch of idiots. Which is why democracy is dumb in my opinion. Sure, everyone should have a pull in what happens, but not the dumb people. Which is a matter of opinion and stuff in some situations, but there are people who haven't the slightest idea how to read a hand clock that can vote. Or even a bunch of other things.

But out of other political systems, it's still not the worse.

What makes me happy is a performance. A good day riding, a great solo in a concert, a really good part in a play, etc. That feels good. Creating Art. That's what's good. It makes people happy for a bit too. The sad part is that so many people have really diluded what talent is. Reality TV, American Idol, Pop Music from the past 20 years, etc. Sure, there are still people that are FANTASTIC artists, but its hard to shine through in a forest of mud. Which makes it very hard to make money doing it.

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4/27/2015 1:59 PM

You could always live in a van down by the river

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4/27/2015 6:53 PM

eskimojay wrote:

You could always live in a van down by the river

Chris Farley would approve

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4/30/2015 10:16 AM

You don't have to. When I was in school there was an 85 year old man who had taken almost every class the college offered. He was just cruising through it with a killer GPA. He was in school for like 15 years at that point.

Another dude I know took 7 years to get an Associate's in business.

They just want to get you dialed in for one path. Do what you want man. I would take as much as I can for free. Do the engineering thing, do drama, do welding, do whatever else sounds like a good time. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FREE SCHOOLING.

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5/2/2015 10:44 AM

Now im feeling really lucky, college is pretty cheap here, like 1000-1800 euros a year.
Im definitely going to study there, dont know if mechanical engineering or electronic, but i think its pretty important. Dont really know about the situation in the US, but in spain, if you dont have a degree, the best you can do is work at mcdonalds getting a really shitty salary. Engenieers dont really make that much here, but you can always go to another country and find something there.
Anyways, if i were you i would study the thing that i like the most, the job related to that carrer will be less boring. Bad thing is that art related stuff is a bit difficult, i mean, it is hard to succed.

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5/2/2015 4:01 PM

dave lawrence wrote:

You don't have to. When I was in school there was an 85 year old man who had taken almost every class the college offered. He ...more

Yeah, I decided to register for classes during the fall since it should still be free for me. I passed the two classes I need to, but by .3% on one. Failed the third class, but it isn't a huge deal since it was a shitty government class that I didn't want to take in the first place. I wanted to take a math class in the summer since I'm behind, but it's fucking $500 for the one class, plus like $200 for a code to get online to actually do the work. Fuck that.

I'm probably going to be going to this shitty community college until the spring of 2017, then transfer to a university for another like 2-3 years, which is where I'll take most of my actual engineering classes. I figure the extra year or at worst two is worth having little if any debt. I know some kids going to art school and they'll be like $100k in debt and will be making like half of what an engineer makes out of college, if they're lucky enough to get a job.

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